Goth Rock - TV Tropes
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"So here it is: the new positive punk, with no empty promises of revolution, either in the rock'n'roll sense or the wider political sphere. Here is only a chance of self-awareness, of personal revolution, of colourful perception and galvanization of the imagination that startles the slumbering mind and body from their sloth."
— Music journalist Richard North, on the emerging 80s Goth scene.
The child of Post-Punk and the genre of music that is the center of the Goth Subculture.
Goth Rock or Gothic Rock emerged in the UK in the late 1970s as an evolution of Post-Punk, with its essential features codified by bands such as Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and The Cure. What differentiates Goth from Post-Punk is a more theatrical style (and arguably more Glam Rock influence) and (most of the time) more elaborate songs with more frequent use of electronics. The theatrical style, with its connotations of artificiality, resulted in a situation where most of the bands closely identified with Goth vehemently denied being Goth bands, notably The Cure and The Sisters of Mercy. Goth Rock has three subgenres which are Deathrock,note Dark Wave and Ethereal Wave. note
Common musical features of the genre include melodies carried by the bass guitar, with the electric guitar taking a secondary role, sparse and minimalistic beats,note effects-laden scything guitar patterns with lots of reverb, and (often) use of synthesizers. The most common vocal styles tend to be creepy monotones, note deep, droning baritones, note or a more flamboyant, glam rock-inspired style. note
Lyrics are usually brooding, thoughtful and introspective, and there may be inspirations in literaturenote and poetry, allied with themes of religious symbolism, romanticism and supernatural mysticism, as well as existentialism, nihilism, melancholy and tragedy.
Arguably, the Trope Codifier for the genre is one specific song: "Bela Lugosi's Dead" by Bauhaus. All the primary elements of Goth Rock are there: Sparse drumming, guitars used for texture rather than being the dominant instrument, the bass guitar carrying the melody, dark lyrics, monotone vocals, and lots of reverb on everything.
The Trope Namer was Rob Gretton, manager of the band Joy Division, when he described their music as gothic to the music press (much to the band's consternation).
Not related to Gothic Metal or Cyber Goth.
See also: Dark Wave, Dark Cabaret
Notable Artists:
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Pre-Punk Predecessors
- David Bowie - His vocal stylings and darkly theatrical music and aesthetics were a massive influence on virtually all aspects of gothic music and fashion.
- Marc Bolan: Like Bowie, he was a major vocal, musical, and aesthetic influence.
- Iggy Pop - Especially The Idiot due to that album's sound as well as the vocal style used by Iggy. Furthermore, Iggy's physical appearance at this time resembled that of an emaciated vampire.
- The Stooges - "We Will Fall"
from their first album is an epic, dark and downright disturbing song that definitely contains some early goth elements.
- The Stooges - "We Will Fall"
- Leonard Cohen - A major inspiration for The Sisters of Mercynote and Nick Cave, he'd always had a dark and cryptic edge to his lyrics and Songs of Love and Hate definitely had the kind of spooky, and downright chilling atmosphere you'd hear in Goth Rock. His image could also be considered somewhat vampiric as he had dark hair and often wore dark suits to go with it.
- Alice Cooper - His over the top Shock Rock theatrics and dark humor have been cited as influential particularly among deathrock acts. Music journalists have pointed to him as "the true ungodly godfather of goth".
- The Doors - The term "Gothic Rock" was first used to describe their sound (in 1967!
◊) in a review which wrote that the band met "in the gloomy vaulted wine cellar of the Delmonico hotel, the perfect room to honor the gothic rock of the Doors". Jim Morrison's baritone vocal style influenced many Gothic Rock singers.
- New York Dolls: Their theatricality, androgyny and gender-bending aesthetics, wry sense of humor, and the overall punkiness of their sound was a huge influence on deathrock and the harder side of gothic rock.
- Nico - The Marble Index is sometimes referred to as "the first Goth album", and proved to be influential due to its haunting sound as well as Nico's dramatic change in her appearance, which would serve as a visual prototype for the early 1980s goth scene.
- Roy Orbison - Another aesthetic influence, and his knack for dramatic, theatrical, and often gloomy and melancholic songwriting and lyricism also struck a chord with many goths.
- Van der Graaf Generator - Known for being Darker and Edgier than other Progressive Rock bands. Peter Hammill's vocal style has been described as a "male Nico".
- The Velvet Underground: Their dark, theatrical, atmospheric songs about taboo subjects and the downsides of the human condition were a huge influence on many acts, and Lou Reed's vocal style was a particularly major influence on a lot of gothic rock and deathrock singers.
- Screamin' Jay Hawkins - He used a horror themed gimmick for his entire career and was also probably the main influence for Shock Rock.
- Scott Walker - Just listen to Scott 3. It's like the soundtrack of a horror movie. His gloomy baritone vocals certainly helped add to the creepiness, too. His later work definitely fits this trope. The Drift basically is a horror movie in audio form.
- The Walker Brothers - Their last album Nite Flights is very dark and gothic Art Rock bordering on Goth Rock.
- Arthur Brown - Similarly to Alice Cooper, Brown was known for his theatrics and also wore ghostly white face paint during all his performances. He also added quite a lot of occult themes into his gimmick.
- The Electric Prunes - Their debut album was very dark and eerie sounding, with "I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night)"
being the standout example.
- Suicide - Known for minimalistic song arrangements that consisted of electronic droning and a single, repeated drum beat and also Alan Vega's gloomy (and sometimes terrifying) rockabilly-styled vocal delivery. "Frankie Teardrop"
is probably the best example of their work. It's also worth noting that they were an influence for Joy Division, and also on Bruce Springsteen for Nebraska.
- Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska, with its sparse arrangements, extremely dark lyrical content and hopeless and at times apocalyptic feel, and stripped-down, raw production, was a definite influence on a lot of gothic country and neofolk artists.
- Roxy Music - Their second album For Your Pleasure absolutely counts. The song "In Every Dream Home a Heartache"
in particular has a creepy and chilling atmosphere throughout thanks to the repetitive guitars and Brian Eno's synths. Furthermore, Bryan Ferry was a major vocal influence for many singers in the genre.
- Brian Eno - His early solo work contained goth elements. Notable examples include "Here Come The Warm Jets" and "Third Uncle".
- Buffy Sainte-Marie - One of the earliest female predecessors to the genre, her album Illuminations is generally considered to be a precursor to the genre with its psychedelic and spectral atmosphere and dreary, spiritual lyricism.
- Nina Simone - Probably the earliest female predecessor to goth. Any song she covered was virtually guaranteed to be Darker and Edgier than the original (most notably her covers of "I Put A Spell On You"
and "Sinnerman"
) and her vocal delivery gave the songs that darker touch that they wouldn't sound out of place in a horror film.
Punk Predecessors
- The Damned - Helped pave the way with a theatrical vampire lead singer and the name of the band itself. Mixed gothic stylings with Hard Rock and then later became a full-on Goth Rock band themselves.
- Gloria Mundi - A rather obscure Ur-Example. Known for being ahead of their time with their dark stage imagery. Also reportedly inspired Bauhaus to alter their image.
- The Cramps - Similarly dark and theatrical, but with a distinct '50s kitsch feel, they were the first band to use the term "Gothabilly" to describe their Gothic Horror, Rockabilly and Surf Rock-influenced music, prior to "Gothabilly" becoming an actual musical genrenote and even the existence of Goth Rock itself.
- The Gun Club - They bordered on post-punk and were closer to punk blues and cowpunk than gothic rock musically, but their aesthetics were very much in line with the gothic rock scene, while they were also a major musical influence on psychobilly and/or an arguable Ur-Example.
- Devo - Much more well known as a New Wave Music group, but the early material found on their Hardcore compilations certainly displays gothic elements with the crunchier guitars, droning keyboards and Mark Mothersbaugh's much gloomier vocals.
- Nina Hagen
Post Punk Predecessors
- Adam and the Ants - Adam Ant was a big influence on gothic fashion, and Dirk Wears White Sox, while not a Gothic Rock album, had a lot of musical elements that gothic acts would later pick up on.
- 1979 - Dirk Wears White Sox
- 1980 - Kings of the Wild Frontier
- 1981 - Prince Charming (1981)
- The Birthday Party - Although they disliked the term gothic, they were very influential on Deathrock bands, and members formed bands that are definitely gothic leaning. They're fairly popular in the goth scene, too. Having one of the other seminal vampire songs, "Release the Bats," helped.
- The Church (Band)
- Echo & the Bunnymen
- Joy Division (Trope Namers)
- Unknown Pleasures (1979)
- Closer (1980)
- Substance (Joy Division Album) (1988)
- Killing Joke - Started out as abrasive Post-Punk that started taking a gothic direction on Revelations and became a full fledged gothic act on Fire Dances, though they moved out of this and towards Industrial Rock with Extremities, Dirt and Various Repressed Emotions.
- The Smiths
- The Queen Is Dead (1986)
- The Sound
- Wire - Whilst not strictly a goth band, the cold, austere sound of their albums Chairs Missing and 154 proved massively influential to the style.
- Gary Numan - Definitely a stylistic influence thanks to his all black clothes and hair. In terms of music, his first album Tubeway Army is definitely the most "gothic" of his discography, blending Post-Punk with early Dark Wave. His next two albums were pretty similar before he shifted to New Wave Music afterwards.
- The Human League - Andrew Eldritch of The Sisters Of Mercy cited their first album Reproduction as an influence due to its dark, synth driven sound.
- Reproduction (1979)
- Travelogue (1980)
First Wave Goth Rock
- Bauhaus (Trope Codifier with "Bela Lugosi's Dead")
- Blood And Roses
- The Cure - Their first album was something akin to Pop Punk or early New Wave, but the three albums following it grew progressively towards Goth Rock. Seventeen Seconds began the trend as a pure Post-Punk album, Faith followed it with strong Joy Division influences, and the third in the "trilogy" Pornography, was pure Goth Rock. After Pornography, they moved more towards New Wave for many years (and most of the rest of their career), with a few exceptions such as the theatrical second wave goth of Disintegration. They never fully abandoned Goth; each of their post Pornography albums contain a few Goth Rock songs or pop songs with some Goth Rock textures.
- Seventeen Seconds (Album) (1980)
- Disintegration (Album) (1989)
- The Danse Society
- Depeche Mode - Their first four albums were closer to New Wave (although with a slight Industrial bent). Then Black Celebration and Music for the Masses took them into full on Goth Rock. They are closer to Dark Wave or Alternative Dance in general.
- Black Celebration (1986)
- Music for the Masses (1987)
- Violator (1990)
- Songs of Faith and Devotion (1993)
- Ultra (1997)
- Playing the Angel (2005)
- Flesh For Lulu
- Gene Loves Jezebel
- Lords Of The New Church (had members of The Damned)
- Play Dead
- Siouxsie and the Banshees - For some albums, at least- they started out as a Punk Rock band (albeit one with an experimental bent), evolved into a Post-Punk / Goth Rock band by the time of their third album Kaleidoscope and then gradually became a kind of Goth-influenced, poppy Alternative Rock.
- The Creatures - An off-shoot of the Banshees featuring lead singer Siouxsie Sioux and Budgie. They would be a acclaimed duo combining goth rock with art rock and exotica.
- Southern Death Cult (eventually the singer formed the band The Cult, but they're not really the same band).
- The Cult's first two albums lean towards Goth Rock as well, albeit with a lot of Psychedelic Rock and Hard Rock influence. After they started working with Rick Rubin they became a straight-up '70s-style Hard Rock / Heavy Metal band.
- Theatre Of Hate - An unusual saxophone-driven example. Later provided their guitarist to The Cult.
- UK Decay
- Virgin Prunes
Second Wave Goth Rock
- Alien Sex Fiend - Known for their Industrial-leaning sound.
- Clan of Xymox (from The Netherlands, also one of the earliest Dark Wave bands)
- Dead Can Dance (also darkwave and neoclassical)
- Fields of the Nephilim (some psychobilly elements)
- Jad Wio
- The March Violets
- The Mission
- Red Lorry Yellow Lorry
- Sex Gang Children - One of the three prominent bands associated with the Batcave nightclub along with Specimen and Alien Sex Fiend
- The Sisters of Mercy (despite Andrew Eldritch firmly rejecting his music being labeled as "goth rock")
- Skeletal Family
- Specimen - The house band for the influential Batcave nightclub.
- Glorious Din
Third Wave Goth Rock
- BUCK-TICK - although they started in 1983, they were playing Punk at the start of their career, and wouldn't shift to Goth until the '90s.
- Devil Doll — also Progressive Rock.
- Mephisto Walz
- Eyes Of The Nightmare Jungle
- Rosetta Stone
- Love Like Blood - Early material only. Later shifted towards Gothic Metal.
- The Wake
- Inkubus Sukkubus
- Garden Of Delight
- London After Midnight
- Love Is Colder Than Death
- Nosferatu
- Luna Sea
- Miranda Sex Garden
- Restoration
- Love Spirals Downwards
- Switchblade Symphony
- Witching Hour
- The Merry Thoughts
- Children On Stun
- Dreadful Shadows
- The Crüxshadows
- This Burning Effigy
- Corpus Delicti
- Fear Cult
- Suspiria
- Faith And The Muse
- The Frozen Autumn
- Killing Miranda
- Manuskript
- Rome Burns
- Athamay
- Swans - Although not a straight-forward example, they started incorporating elements of the genre into their sound starting on Children of God. Later jettisoned all traces of Goth Rock on Soundtracks for the Blind.
Contemporary Goth Rock
- AFI (starting with Burials onward)
- Bella Morte (also Dark Wave)
- The Birthday Massacre (also Dark Wave)
- D
- Deadsy
- The Divine Madness
- Executioners Mask
- Diamanda Galás
- HIM
- Lebanon Hanover
- Marilyn Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's The Pale Emperor; while the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on Eat Me, Drink Me), categorizing their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by the band and their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with Industrial Rock, which the band had fused with elements of Glam Rock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether they are a Goth band or merely influenced by the genre.
- Portrait of an American Family (1994)
- Smells Like Children (1995) (EP)
- Antichrist Superstar (1996)
- Mechanical Animals (1998)
- Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) (2000)
- Lord Of The Lost
- Mary and the Black Lamb
- Midnight Resistance (also Dark Wave)
- Mono Inc.
- Queen Adreena
- The Rasmus
- She Past Away
- Violet UK
Dark Wave
Deathrock
- 45 Grave (also Horror Punk)
- Catholic Spit
- Christian Death: Particularly earlier works with Rozz Williams at the helm — Only Theatre of Pain,
- All Gone Dead
- Kommunity FK
- Voodoo Church
- Cinema Strange
Ethereal Wave
- Cocteau Twins
- Dead Can Dance
- This Mortal Coil
- Music/Lycia
- Faith And The Muse
- Faith And Disease
- This Mortal Coil: 4AD Records supergroup including members of Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance and The Pixies. Also Dream Pop.
- Blood (1991)
Some definitive gothic post-punk and first-wave goth tracks:
- Bauhaus - "Bela Lugosi’s Dead"
- The Cult - "She Sells Sanctuary"
- The Cure - "A Forest"
- Siouxsie and the Banshees - "Spellbound"
- Joy Division - "Heart and Soul"
- The Birthday Party - "Mr. Clarinet"
- Southern Death Cult - "Moya"
- Virgin Prunes - "Baby Turns Blue"
- UK Decay - "Black Cat"
Some second-wave goth rock tracks:
- Xmal Deutschland - "Incubus Succubus II"
- Specimen - "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"
- Skeletal Family - "Promised Land"
- Christian Death - "As Evening Falls"
- The Sisters of Mercy - "Lucretia My Reflection"
- Fields of the Nephilim - "Laura II"
- The Mission UK - "Wasteland"
- The Damned - "The Shadow of Love"
Some third-wave goth rock tracks:
- Witching Hour - "Ligea"
- Suspiria - Allegedly, "Dancefloor Tragedy"
- Mephisto Walz - "Mephisto Walz"
- Nösferätu - "Vampyres Cry"
- Corpus Delicti - "Saraband"
- Inkubus Sukkubus - "Wytches"
- The Wake - "Nazarene"
- London After Midnight - "Sacrifice"
- Faith and the Muse - "Sovereign"
- HIM - "Dark Light"
Tropes Common in Goth Rock:
- Alternative Rock: It's usually considered a subgenre of this, and some Goth Rock artists (The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Love and Rockets, and The Sisters of Mercy) were pretty popular on College Radio back in The '80s.
- Darker and Edgier: Goth Rock is a evolution of Post-Punk, only darker in tone.
- Echoing Acoustics: Common, though by no means universal. It tends to add to the dark atmosphere.
- The '80s: The genre's heyday.
- Goth: Trope Namer. Goth Rock and its four subgenres are the center of the Goth Subculture.
- Lighter and Softer: Some individual bands and the Ethereal Wave subgenre headed in this direction.
- Misblamed: The genre (and the Goth scene as a whole) is often blamed for things like school shootings — never mind that most school shooters haven't been known to listen to the genre (the oft blamed so-called "Goth" bands, such as Rammstein, generally are not actual Goth Rock artists), or that which music they listen to is largely irrelevant anyways.
- Nobody Loves the Bassist: Usually averted — the bass is often quite important to the overall atmosphere of the genre, and bassists like Simon Gallup, Steve Severin, and David J are both well known by fans of the genre and highly regarded.
- One-Woman Wail: Ethereal Wave is a subgenre that amps up the distortion of Goth Rock for a more soothing type of sound. Many Ethereal Wave songs include airy and hard-to-decipher female vocals.
- Post-Punk: Originated as a subgenre of this before gaining a life of its own around the time Post-Punk as a whole began to decline during the second half of the '80s.
- Spin-Off: Goth Rock is a spin-off of Post-Punk.