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Hi Bunnypranav! I was wondering if you could have the bot place the WikiProject Latin and Heritage under these categories: Hispanic and Latino American people, American people of Haitian descent, American people of Guadeloupean descent, American people of Martiniquais descent, American people of Equatoguinean descent, but exclude Puerto Rican people from the mass tagging. Here is the consensus to include people of those descents into the WikiProject scope. Here is the template: {{WikiProject United States}}}} (with the parameter being HLA=yes). Thank you in advance! Erick (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Erick, I would love to be able to help with this task. I do also have a few questions to you. While making the lists of pages, what should be the depth of the categories to be included? Basically, how many levels of subcategories deep in the category tree should I search in the above categories to make the list? petscan:31676986 is only the pages which are directly in the above listed cats, while petscan:31677085 searches 5 levels deep. This needs to be carefully calculated to avoid over tagging of not related pages. PetScan also allows for the depth to be set per parent cat, i.e. for each cat you provided, how deep should it search customized to that cat. (Personal experience, 5 might be too deep, though you be the judge for figuring this out.)

Secondly, is {{WikiProject United States}} already included in these pages, if not, should it be added?

Apologies if this giant wall of technical text is overwhelming, I just wanted to list everything to avoid mistakes in the tagging. Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:43, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and no worries! I took a look at petscan and saw articles that wouldn't fit in the project scope like Colin Powell whose ancestries don't come from a country that we cover and I couldn't find the category that caused this. Since some categories are small like American people of Guadeloupean descent, I guess I can manually do those. So maybe just tag the categories for Hispanic and Latino American people and American people of Haitian descent just for now? Some pages have the US project banner already, while others don't, I wouldn't know which ones do or don't. Maybe add this to the exclusion page: WikiProject Hispanic and Latino Americans articles so it doesn't get re-tagged? And I'm fine with the subcats being set as is. Erick (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, instead of Hispanic and Latino American people, can the bot do Hispanic and Latino American society? Erick (talk) 16:50, 2 February 2025 (UTC) No that didn't work either, it included Andrew Jackson who again doesn't have ancestries from a country we cover. Just do Hispanic and Latino American people and American people of Haitian descent for now. Edit 2: I set the depth to "3" instead of "5" so that the bot doesn't accidentally cover articles that don't fall under the project scope. Also add these to the exclusion category: American people of Spanish-Jewish descent, American people of Asturian descent American people of Basque descent, American people of Canarian descent, American people of Catalan descent, American people of Galician descent,Guamanian people of Spanish descent, Hawaiian Kingdom people of Spanish descent, Louisiana Creole people of Spanish descent.[reply]

Here's a Petscan I did, which is more ideal.Erick (talk) 17:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Magiciandude:, I'm a bit busy now, so I may file a BRFA in a day or two. By that time, I would appreciate if you could just spot check the pages in that petscan above to see if those 10,000~ pages need to be tagged, and if most of them have the US project tag in the talk as well (will make my job easy!), this will also minimize the possible extended trial in the WP:BRFA phase in case something goes wrong. (better safe than sorry!) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, since this is a very large mass tagging job, I think we should get some explicit consensus about these categories of pages to be tagged. You can post this petscan query and link the categories in a new subheading under the above consensus section, possibly pinging its participants. This is just to ensure additional verification for the categories/pages listed. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I completely understand. Pinging @Oscar .: to see what he thinks. Erick (talk) 18:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Magiciandude I think it would be better if you add a talk notice to the wiki project talk taking some second opinions about the cats being mass tagged, or atleast a link to this page. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 11:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I will probably do it this Saturday. Erick (talk) 15:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is not because I doubt your listing is wrong, but just to take a few more opinions before this mass tagging. Thanks for understanding! :) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:09, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Magiciandude, @Oscar . Any update? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 09:54, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping @Magiciandude, and Bunnypranav to help make sense of this. Long story short, last July we reactivated the project (which at that time was a task force of the USA project), and with a small consensus I moved the pages to the page that today is called WP:LATINOS, the problem is that in doing so, the original list of articles that linked to the banner was sort of lost. If we are going to start over, my suggestion would be to have a new banner and clasifications.

The benefit would be, as I think Magiciandude is starting to peek, is to have a better classification according to the definitions we have and also to have updated metrics of how many articles really exist there, the catch is, it sounds like a lot of leg work, but in all honesty, I think any help would be welcome, also suggestions on how to move forward on this. If you want we can continue on the project discussion page, thanks in advance, --Oscar_. (talk) 02:54, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the insights Oscar .. Once we have a template tag, parameters, and a list with least positive false positives, I am ready to go ahead with the tagging. I wouldn't mind having the discussion here, but if you do so, just make sure to post a notice to the project talk. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 04:27, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great @Bunnypranav! If Magiciandude and I don’t get to it before the weekend, I’ll be starting the WikiProject thread next week, Oscar_. (talk) 05:13, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's best to do it on the project talk page so that way we can save the discussion for future reference whenever it gets archived. Erick (talk) 00:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Magiciandude Go ahead, feel free to copy the above section for some context as well. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 03:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the delay, my glasses broke so it's a bit hard for me to see and I won't get my new pair until probably next week. But I'll start working on the templates with Oscar. Erick (talk) 17:59, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Magiciandude No worries, take your time. Just thought to inform you. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 01:17, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, @Bunnypranav. I was wondering if you are able to change the font size in your signature as it can be quite hard to see for a person who may have low vision, like myself, and it can take a bit to be able to see the smaller text. A "font-size:10pt" (or 9pt) could work. Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 05:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Cowboygilbert, I would be glad to chane it to be more accessible (once I get to my PC in a couple hours). Quick question, I didn't set a smaller size per se, does the monospace font make it look smaller? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:05, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bunnypranav, I believe it is the font that changes the size. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 17:48, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowboygilbert I have set it to 10.5pt. Is this better? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:14, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the welcome! I am noticing different levels and types of citations around Wikipedia and I see sometimes an item is cited with just ref tags and sometimes with the cite web template and sometimes also linked at the bottom of an article under external links. I'm wondering about best practices so if you have suggestions, let me know. One more specific question I have is: Should I mostly use cite web template for all citations and should those links I provide also be listed in the external links at the bottom of an article, or only in the citation? Thanks! --LodroNyimaCO (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @LodroNyimaCO, citation styles are usually dictated by Wikipedia:CITETYPE policy, so you might wanna have a read of that. If you're cutting a source available on the web, you can add a link to it in the citation template. The content in the all cite templates are listed at the bottom of the page with {{reflist}} automatically, so you need not add it to the external links section. For a more detailed guide on cite templates, have a look at Wikipedia:Citation templates. Hope that helps! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:09, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I never requested Rohith Nagesh for deletion, I wanna create article and currently gathering information from reliable sources. pls undo deletion request. thank you. Vikashcv (talk) 06:59, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Vikashcv, I requested the article to be deleted as it was emptied by you. I would suggest you work on the draft version of the article at Draft:Rohith Nagesh before. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:02, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You offered to write some tips for the tip of the day project.

Go for it.

Post them on the talk page, or look for a tip that has duplicates and replace one. Or look for a tip that is obsolete (there are usually one two that go stale each year).

In any case, the community will benefit from new tips on how to make Wikipedia more useful and easier to use.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   18:35, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist Thanks for this encouragement. Will try to do it today. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 03:23, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

before slapping tags on articles. Llammakey (talk) 19:20, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Llammakey It wasn't me who tagged Chinese ship Zhanjiang and it's talk, but @Thehistorianisaac. I just reverted the page back to a redirect, and later got reverted by the creator themselves. Please look at the history before posting notices on talk pages. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 11:07, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Bunnypranav. Thanks again for your technical help! I don’t want to flood the project discussion, but I have a couple of questions that have been living rent-free in my mind for a while, both technical and possibly requiring PetScan or SPARQL.

The first is about country of origin for biographies. Is there a way to determine, based on a category (like "Latino musicians"), where someone's heritage comes from? For example, identifying whether their background is Mexican, Colombian, etc.? I’d love to find a way to represent people based on their heritage, whether they were born there or their parents were.

The other question is a bit more abstract. I’d like to know if it’s possible to estimate how many articles belong to a specific category compared to a larger one. For example, if I want to determine what percentage of musicians are of Latino origin compared to the total number of musicians in the United States and get a result like "13% of musicians are Latino," is there a way to calculate this without doing the math manually?

Please let me know if you can help, or at least point me in the right direction with these questions. I’d greatly appreciate it. Cheers! Oscar_. (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Oscar ., I would love to help you out with the stuff that that I know! Firstly, if you just want to filter people based on background, you can just put both of the matching qualities in PetScan. Say American people of Spanish descent who are musicians, put Category:American musicians and Category:American people of Spanish descent in the Categories section of PetScan, setting the depth accordingly (Pro-tip, you can set the depth per parent category, add | and the depth number, see petscan:31976555 for an example)

The second one's answer is related to the above practice. To found out the percentage of Spanish descent American musicians for all American Musicians, just take the number you got above divide it by total number of pages in Category:American musicians (you can figure that out by creating another PetScan with just this cat in the fields, and a desired search depth) and then multiplying by 100 for a percent. 158 (above link)/36722(petscan:31976665 of the musicians) gives 0.4%. Just keep in mind that the second number is excessively bloated due to the all-inclusive nature of the cat. Feel free to refine the data by providing exceptions and playing with depth values.

If you do not want to like handdling these cats due to their bloated or incomplete nature, you might have to use SPARQL or SQL in Quarry since WikiData might provide a more accurate data source. I may be able to help create some Petscans if you need, but I do not know anything about these SQL-like methods. If you want to try to learn and create SPARQL youselves, take a look at the guides at wikidata:Wikidata:SPARQL query service/Wikidata Query Help. If you want help with other people writing those try posting at wikidata:Wikidata:Request a query for SPARQL and WP:SQL for quarry queries. I'm not sure if category data is in quarry or not, but if wikidata folks can't help you, just try there once. Hope this helps! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:18, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --RGZMarketing (talk) 14:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @RGZMarketing! Welcome to Wikipedia, and I'm glad to be able to help you! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]