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Never Live It Down (trope)

Yamcha will never live this down.note 

"The reader also knows that everyone poos. But if the first thing a character does is poo in front of the reader, the reader will think of him as the Pooing Character forevermore."

Many people have the tendency to take some characters and narrowly define them based on one action or event, to the exclusion of other, often more important, actions of that character.

Sometimes, this is perfectly understandable, if that action or event stands out more than anything else the character did. But just as much, it doesn't, and it can seem as if some people just haven't been paying attention.

Let's take a hypothetical show, Bob Loves Alice. There is a fan favorite episode where Bob gets caught up in a game of darts. He isn't that good, and he never really tries darts again. A bunch of fans like that episode enough that, in loads of fan fiction, Bob sucking at darts is his defining characteristic and it's what everyone knows him for, when in actual Canon, it's never really mentioned again.

In short, it's like Flanderization, but instead of the canon actually making the character like that, fanon causes everyone to think the character is like that. Sounds silly, but it's all too real.

On the internet, it is usually the person's never-lived-it-down aspect that undergoes Memetic Mutation.

This can also turn even worse when those fans start Running the Asylum in that show's later seasons, and now everyone on the show talks about how Bob sucks at darts (maybe even calling him "Sucky Dart-Playing Guy" or suchlike) while ignoring all the other things Bob has done since then. But you never see Bob playing darts, because surely we've seen enough of that. No, we haven't. We've seen it once. And since this is placing all of Bob's more prominent traits and events behind this minor one, it even risks taking away a dimension of Character Depth.

Die for Our Ship victims are a subset of this, best remembered for being the ones that got in the way of a lot of people's OTPs.

Compare Flanderization, Dead Unicorn Trope, Audience-Coloring Adaptation, Best Known for the Fanservice, Plot Tumor, Writer Behind the Times, Overshadowed by Controversy, I Am Not Spock.

When the show decides to remind you that Bob-The-Sucky-Dart-Player is not his canon personality, that's Forgot Flanders Could Do That.

Remember When You Blew Up a Sun? seems like this, but it merely harks back to a character's achievements, not pretend that's all the character does. Also related is One-Scene Wonder, where a small guest star starts to dominate Fan Fic.

Keep in mind that in order to qualify for this trope, a person has to have done good things as well as bad ones. An outright criminal or psychopath deserves to be remembered solely for being evil, especially if they never had a chance to become famous otherwise.

Has nothing to do with a character who can't forget their sins. For that, see My Greatest Failure, Be All My Sins Remembered, The Atoner, My God, What Have I Done?, or Cartesian Karma. Fallen Hero and Face–Heel Turn are the two most tragic examples of this.

Keep in mind that fandom is often a fickle thing. What is seen as a major embarrassment in the moment can die down quickly after its release. Therefore, there is a mandatory six-month waiting period to add a moment as an example after it happens. It’s important to wait and see if the character's reputation still stands in the long-run rather than it just being a fading memory.

For In-Universe examples of characters being repeatedly reminded of their past failures or embarrassments, see Once Done, Never Forgotten.


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Comic Strips 

Fan Works 

Films — Animation 

  • The Beast from Beauty and the Beast (1991) only spent the first half of the film as a jerk but after warming up to Belle, he goes from a jerk with a temper to a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. Despite this, people who believe in the infamous Stockholm Syndrome theory will often use this to justify why they think it's Stockholm Syndrome.
  • For Big Hero 6, even though Hiro Hamada is a mostly nice kid, the fandom will warp his attempt to kill Professor Callaghan to sociopathic levels, even ignoring the part where he realizes his mistake and the aspect of Callaghan inadvertently killing Tadashi.
  • From Chicken Little (2005), Buck will never live down being a neglectful parent towards his son and more or less not treating him very well, with people even suggesting he likes neglecting Chicken Little and making him seem like the villain. Despite the fact that he does genuinely love his son and shows signs of improvement later on, it was considered too little and too late and therefore he will forever be known by Disney fans as one of the most problematic parental figures in the Disney canon.
  • Cinderella still carries the stigma of needing a Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming to whisk her away to her Happily Ever After. While that is how she got her Happy Ending, critics often accused her of waiting and counting on someone to lift her out of her dire straits from the get-go. The truth is that the idea never crossed her mind, and she didn't even know the man she met at the ball was a prince until long afterwards. This accusation was so pervasive that several Disney movies, such as Frozen, The Princess and the Frog, Enchanted, the original film's sequel, and even as far back as The Little Mermaid, all put some thought towards averting or deconstructing the notion of a passive princess who needs another to grant her heart's desire to her with no actual effort on her part.
  • Ice Age:
  • The Lion King (1994): To some, Scar becomes a less intimidating villain after throwing a temper tantrum when Zazu says Mufasa's name, as well as after he says, "I'm the king! I can do whatever I want!", as both are extremely childish things for someone his age to do, and this makes most people realize how immature he really is underneath that charming façade. However, they ignore that he goes back to being the charming, manipulative schemer he was in the first half as soon as he tries to convince the others that Simba killed Mufasa, and he does actually put up a decent fight with Simba.
  • Kiara in The Lion King II: Simba's Pride is known by fans for being a horrible hunter. She fails one hunt, and it's the first hunt she's ever done, not helped by the fact that Timon and Pumbaa were tailing her.
  • The Little Mermaid got flak for Ariel striking her Deal with the Devil to allegedly chase her crush with the human prince, ignoring the fact she harbored a passion for the human world from the very beginning and, if anything, it was the actions of her Fantasy-Forbidding Father that pushed her over the edge, which incidentally, Triton himself tends not to live down.
  • Ironically, Ariel isn't likely to live down her tactless Parental Hypocrisy in the sequel, The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea. Then again, a crazy sea witch searching for your only child can do that to you. Viewers also tend to forget that Ariel and Eric state that they were eventually planning to tell Melody everything, and were just waiting until she was old enough to handle it; the night Melody ran away is the same night they decided that it was time.
  • My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: The relation between Twilight and Flash extends to just a crush and nothing more. However, the fans bash upon Flash Sentry like he did more than just that and gave him the title of "Waifu Thief".
    • Sunset's plan of physically cutting and pasting photographs to frame Twilight is another one, for just how awful and poorly thought out it is, yet somehow nearly convincing the principal of the school. Even despite showing herself to be more intelligent later on, it left a stain on Sunset's reputation for a while.
  • My Little Pony: Equestria Girls – Rainbow Rocks:
    • Sonata talks about tacos exactly once in the film. From the fanfics, you'd think it's her Trademark Favorite Food. It's a memorable and hilarious line, and she says it with a borderline Squee, but still, one time.
    • Additionally, Sonata only says "For realzies?" once in the entire film, as her first line. Yet, fans treat it like it's her catchphrase that she says almost every other sentence.
  • Rio 2: Jewel has gotten this with her obliviousness on Blu's hardships on adjusting in with her tribe and family and over her abrupt change of plans on staying in the Amazon rainforest, although she does redeem herself with defending Blu from her father Eduardo and saving the Amazon from the loggers, Fans feel it is not enough pointing out how she ignored Blu's struggles in the Amazon in the first place even having the gall to believe he was "selfish" putting her and Blu's relationship into question as a whole among general audiences.
  • The Rugrats Movie: Many people consider Tommy practically psychopathic for nearly pouring banana baby food on Dil and leaving him in the rain to be taken by the monkeys, even though he quickly becomes remorseful and embraces Dil when he starts crying. It doesn't help that some people state Tommy wanted to murder Dil, even though it's never even implied the monkeys would kill him to get the food.
  • While Sony Pictures Animation has certainly created a number of well-received films over the years — commonly cited examples being Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, and the Spiderverse movies — many still remember them primarily for being the guys who made The Emoji Movie.
  • Zootopia:
    • Clawhauser gets a donut stuck in his neck only once at the beginning of the film, but this situation is featured heavily in fanart, even pieces that clearly take place at a different time.
    • Judy being uncomfortable at the sight of naked animals at Mystic Springs Oasis Club has been flanderized by fans as her having nudophobia (fear of nudity), with the fanworks where Judy is portrayed in that way playing it for the sake of comedy.

Jokes 

  • The following joke is the former Trope Namer for Bestiality Is Depraved, and distills the essence of this trope more than any other joke:

    A young man is walking through a small village one day and decides to stop by a bar and have a beer. He walks into a bar, and sees a grizzled old man, crying into his beer. Curious, the young man sits down and says, "Hey old timer, why the long face?"
    The old man looks at him and points out the window, "See that dock out there? I built that dock with my own two hands, plank by plank, nail by nail, but do they call me McGregor the dockbuilder? No, no."
    The old man continued, "And see that boat out there? I've been fishing these waters for my village for 35 years! But do they call me McGregor the fisherman? No, no."
    The old man continued, "And see all the crops in the farms out there? I planted and have been farming those crops for my village for nearly 45 years! But do they call me McGregor the farmer? No, no."
    The old man starts to cry again, "But you screw one goat..."

    • The late Spalding Gray, recounting a first (and evidently uncharacteristic) homosexual experience, told the same joke, ending with 'Pierre the Sailor/the Carpenter/the Fireman' exclaiming "I suck one cock…!".
  • In a similar note is the line from a stand-up routine of "nobody ever compliments me on the times when I wasn't a cannibal."

Mythology and Religion 

  • Basically the entire Greek pantheon. Pick a god, any god, and chances are you'll easily find a story where they behave like a downright asshole and/or massive hypocrite, leading to a modern perception that's much less respectful than how they were actually seen by their worshippers; it's also notable that, in various cases, some of these stories were seen as disrespectful at the time — Plato was notably critical of stories depicting the gods as overly carnal or petty — or else reflect values that were widespread in Greece two and a half thousand years ago but which don't coincide with modern morality very well. Heck, it's almost easier to list the gods that weren't subject to this: Hermes (best known for bailing out heroes), Hestia (as goddess of hearth and home, she generally stayed out of trouble), and Hephaestus (who was more likely to screw with other gods than with mortals). But if you want more detail:
    • Zeus is the patron of the sky, Greek civilization, justice, and hospitality. He's the king of the gods, their wisest and most powerful member, and is generally the one to take the lead when the gods need to beat back horrible monsters of some description or another. But for people today, he's the God of Horndogs, as we have a lot of stories about how he banged one mortal woman or other, with the woman's consent depending on the author or translator (the Greek word for 'seduction' is a bit ambiguous with regards to consent). There are several potential historical explanations, such as syncretism with other gods who had their own consorts or legitimacy for ruling houses, but thousands of years later, most of that context has disappeared and we're just left with Mr. Horny.
    • Hera is the Queen of Olympus, goddess of rulership and marriage, and probably the most powerful and influential goddess, but is mostly known for being constantly cheated on and her violence towards anyone who dared accept Zeus's affections, even if they were rape victims.
    • Poseidon was the god of the sea and of horses, but when not depicted as a sort of generic "King of Atlantis" figure, he's famous for his rivalry with Athena and for losing the contest to name Athens to her. Either that or being a jerk to Odysseus.
    • Athena is the goddess of wisdom, crafts, strategy, and tactics, and was generally seen as the 'good' war god (At least to the Athenians, who were a bit biased on the subject). And while she has escaped the worst of this trope, she's never going to live down Victim-Blaming Medusa and turning her into a gorgon (which has no actual mythological basis — Ovid made it up for The Metamorphoses, and the guy had a history of anti-authoritarianism and making the gods look bad).
    • Artemis, like Athena, is generally seen in a good light, but she is still known for being so 'No Boys Allowed' that she killed a guy for accidentally peeping on her.
    • Artemis's brother Apollo was the god of a whole lot of things, including music, sports, and medicine, but he's best known for his Cartwright Curse — he has a lot of lovers winding up dead or turned into plants.
    • Ares is in the unique position of having caught the bad end of this trope long before the collapse of Ancient Greece- most of the stories we have involve Ares being mocked for his Dumb Muscle nature and being considered the Black Sheep of the family, and the stories praising him are much more obscure.
    • Dionysus wasn't just the god of throwing parties and getting drunk; he was originally worshipped as a god of madness, nature, outcasts, and rebirth, and wine was associated with him because drunkenness was thought to tap in to the primal subconscious mind that Dionysus represented. He was toned down when accepted into the regular pantheon, and worship by a hedonistic ruling class put his 'party dude' side into greater focus.
    • Hades is usually seen as one of the 'reasonable deities' (since he was stuck in the Underworld, he didn't participate in many myths), but his best-known exploit is still kidnapping Persephone.
    • Demeter is the goddess of agriculture and nature, but she's best known for when she refused to do her job after Persephone was kidnapped, creating winter.
    • Aphrodite features in too many myths to recount here, but suffice to say she's more often seen as the Alpha Bitch goddess than the love goddess (especially due to her role in the Psyche myth, where she punishes poor Psyche for other people saying Psyche was more beautiful than Aphrodite).
  • Also from Greek myth, Achilles, who was a peerless warrior and in later myths outright Nigh-Invulnerable except for his, his heel, which is now his most remembered trait.
  • The Bible:
    • Elisha travelled around Israel healing the sick, performing miracles, and challenging pagan religious leaders. But (today at least) he's more famous for sending bears to maul a group of young men.
    • The Apostle Thomas is remembered as "Doubting Thomas" for questioning whether Jesus rose from the dead when he first heard it.
  • The Shinto storm deity, Susanoo. Though he saved a woman from being sacrificed to the eight-headed serpent Orochi and gave its tailbone to Amaterasu as a sword, he's best known for his behavior that led him to become The Atoner. After losing a god-creating-contest to Amaterasu, a drunken Susanoo rampaged through the High Plain of Heaven, culminating in an incident where he threw a half-flayed horse into Amaterasu's weaving room, scaring her so badly that he almost plunged Heaven into an eternity of darkness.

Podcasts 

  • In one episode of Jemjammer, Cacophony was almost killed by an enchanted carpet. It's a sore spot for her.

Puppet Shows 

  • Sesame Street:
  • Thunderbirds: Lady Penelope is best known among fans for her bad driving in "Vault of Death" and her fear of mice in "The Mighty Atom." This is in spite of the fact these "faults" only appeared in one episode and most episodes after "Vault Of Death" show that she's actually improved her driving skills.

Radio 

Roleplay 

  • Tends to happen fairly frequently in Survival of the Fittest, as some handlers sometimes make jokes about characters based on something they only did once. This includes Reiko Ishida dropping her bread, Charlene Norris putting an implausible amount of jello shots in a certain area, and Jay Holland and his PANTIESPANTIESPANTIES.
  • Five years ago, during an ordinary battle on Neo Pokeforum, one of the arbiters had a player's torchic taken away and given to his opponent. Despite the time that passed since then, the fact that this arbiter left the forum for a long time, and the whole administration is brand new, the player in question still won't forget this and won't let anyone else forget it either.
  • Somewhat toeing the line between this and Flanderization is Open Blue's Espartano unit. Originally, it was supposed to be of all ages and both genders, but due to the fact that one RPer kept on cranking out badass young girls, the idea that it is an Amazon Brigade has stuck to the other regulars. Consequently, this has resulted in one regular creating an entire squad of them, as opposed to the usual single independent operatives. The line blurs between this and flanderization because each new character/group of characters added technically counts as canon unless declared otherwise.

Stand-Up Comedy 

  • The Laugh Factory has seen performers doing stand-up throughout the years, but it will forever be remembered for being the place where Michael Richards went on a profoundly racist rant at audience members that heckled him.
  • To this day there are older gay men who refuse to have anything to do with Eddie Murphy due to homophobic jokes he made in his standup specials in the early 80's. This is despite the fact that Murphy had apologized for those jokes as early as 1996 and made a sizable donation to the Elton John AIDS Foundation.

Tabletop Games 

  • Warhammer: In the early edition, it was implied (albeit never outright stated) that leaders of the Dark Elves, Malekith the Witch-King, and his mother Morathi might be lovers. Mind you, the only thing that was said was that there were rumours of such. The subtext was removed from later editions, but that Malekith fucked his mother is one of the things many fans choose to remember about him.
  • Warhammer 40,000:
    • It seems that some people seem to have taken the Clap Your Hands If You Believe element of Orky technology to mean that ALL of it runs simply because the Orks believe it does, rather than being functional technology that works better thanks to the field. No, a stick will not fire bullets if you convince an Ork that it can, goddamnit (though a pipe would, as far as the second edition rules are concerned, which came out in 1993)! A lot of this is the result of a combination of Rule of Funny and a severe case of Depending on the Writer. Many sources do depict Ork tech as functional, if unreliable, including instances of regular humans using it with only minor difficulties. Others will depict Ork tech as essentially non-functional, and in particular humorous takes will often depict the psychic field as an incredibly powerful form of reality warping
    • The Imperial Guard will never escape their reputation as a Red Shirt Army who easily fall to any other force. Granted, that's mostly how they were depicted in the early editions, but later editions solidified their nature as a Badass Army fully capable of holding their own. The only reason they die so often is because the enemies of the Imperium are all incredibly badass, incredibly numerous, or both in their own rights.
    • The Planetary Defense Force (a.k.a. the PDF) usually present on Imperial worlds as a first line of defense kept their Red Shirt Army status. This is to the point that they are considered incredibly incompetent at best in-universe by both the Imperial Guard and Space Marines, since PDFs have a reputation of being mainly comprised of soldiers who couldn't live up to the standards of a Imperial Guard regiment, along with never actually succeeding at planetary defense.
    • Matt Ward is not a bad writer: he's done work involving Trazyn the Infinite and Castellan Crowe, and had a hand in the plot of Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2, all of which were very well received. But his reputation will always, ALWAYS be defined by his take on the Ultramarines, a take that can charitably be described as divisive, and an infamous incident involving Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle.
  • Warhammer: Age of Sigmar has a number from the early days of the game, as the reboot of Warhammer Fantasy into Age of Sigmar resulted in a very Broken Base. The deliberately silly real-life requirements, like needing to have a bigger mustache than your opponent for certain units rules to work, are probably the most infamous example. Despite the fact that the game launched in 2015 and the General's Handbook which eliminated those rules came out less than a year later, they're still commonly brought up by disgruntled fans.
  • Many Magic: The Gathering sets suffer from this.
    • Legends for the vanilla legends, but it's still known as a good set, despite them.
    • The Dark for Sorrow's Path, at one point considered the worst card in Magic (at least, that isn't an outright joke).
    • Fallen Empires may have given us Hymn to Tourach, but it also gave us the ability to pay life to put a creature in play to put counters on that we could sacrifice to gain life equal to the number of counters. Guess which one got remembered more.
    • Homelands for, well, everything.
    • Mercadian Masques for the Power Seep.
    • Kamigawa for the awkward "splice onto arcane" mechanic, and for One with Nothing, also considered one of the worst cards in Magic.note 
    • Meanwhile, the Magic R&D team has several moments for overpowered sets, specifically Urza's Saga block and its "free spells" that let you untap lands equal to their mana costs...with several lands that could tap for more than one mana. This helped usher in "Combo Winter," one of the more miserable tournament environments in Magic history.
  • Despite Rule Zero technically protecting any given RPG from one bad rule ruining the bunch, splatbooks can have over two hundred pages of great material, and only be remembered for one bad rule or feature. It can get even worse if the feature isn't itself bad, but synergizes with another book's rules to create an unintended Game-Breaker. For example, Frostburn is a very well done feature book on cold weather terrain and characters in Dungeons & Dragons. At this point it will seemingly only be remembered for providing two minor feats that contribute to making the Locate City Bomb.
  • BattleTech:
    • "Mad" Maximilian Liao. The man was canonically a legitimate Chessmaster in his younger years, may well have suffered from a medical condition explaining his decline if some of his descendants are any indication, and finally only really lost it at the very end of his career — but the fandom will always remember him for his "grab the wedding plates, they're military intelligence!" moment in the Warrior trilogy and being notionally played for a fool at every turn by Hanse Davion & Co. during the disastrous (for House Liao) Fourth Succession War.
    • The Lyran Commonwealth will always be remembered for their ''Social Generals'', who got their rank through money and connections than by experience. While the Lyrans have several formidable Mech Warriors and even the merger of the Federated Commonwealth gain them some reasonable commanders, the Lyrans are mostly known for simply sending Heavy and Assault mechs as their primary tactic.
  • Dungeons & Dragons
    • As a writer for Dungeons & Dragons, even though he publicly apologised for it, Colin McComb will probably never be truly forgiven for his AD&D 2nd Edition splatbook "The Complete Guide to the Master Race". Uh no, sorry, The Complete Book of Elves.
    • An optional rule from Advanced D&D 1st Edition penalized Demihuman female characters on their Strength score: -1 for dwarves, -2 for elves, and -3 for halflings and gnomes. While the rule was misremembered as all female PCs having their strength subtracted by four, it remains a fact that female PCs of a few races still had their Strength reduced as a game mechanic. "Minus Four Strength" was even the former trope name for Game-Favored Gender. TSR dropped this rule when they realized what a bad idea it was; from D&D 2nd Edition's release onward, a player character's gender has had no effect whatsoever on their stats or abilities. The concept is now a Creator Backlash for TSR and longtime fans of D&D, yet it still gets brought up from time to time.
    • "Bear Lore" in Fourth Edition is remembered as writing that's unintentionally funny. Most editions of the game have a mechanic where you can roll increasingly difficult checks to learn useful information about the monsters you're fighting. In Fourth Edition, the provided information on bears are things that anyone who's even heard of a bear would know, such as "cave bears live in caves" and "bears attack with their claws". By contrast, the same checks for a manticore would reveal genuinely useful information that a manticore can talk and that it's susceptible to illusions and trickery. As such, the "bear lore" was subject to a lot of mockery and memes about other extremely obvious things (such as rolling a check on fire to learn that fire is hot). Even after the statements were taken out, "bear lore" remains a black eye on Fourth Edition's reputation.
    • The Paladin class as a whole got itself a reputation for being Lawful Stupid thanks to the game's mechanics in D&D. In the First through Third Editions of the game, not only did a Paladin always have to be Lawful Good, but they could lose their powers forever if they let any lawbreaking go unpunished. As a result, the class was the bane of many a D&D player for a long time, as the arguments around what to do in any given situation were complicated by this mechanic. Paladins thus gained a reputation as the class of "Stop Having Fun" Guys, and the Lawful Stupid behavior is one that people still believe that Paladins are saddled with. Even after Fourth Edition changed this mechanic so that a Paladin's Character Alignment just has to match the alignment of the god they serve, and Fifth Edition did away with alignment locking altogether, the Paladin's reputation as a Lawful Stupid class hasn't gone away.

Theater 

  • The title character of Hamlet is well-known for being indecisive and angsty, spending scenes contemplating his navel instead of doing something. It's gotten to the point where "he's a Hamlet" means "he's indecisive." But in the actual play, Hamlet acts stupidly rash just as often as he acts stupidly timid, most notably when he kills Polonius. Which means...
  • Götz von Berlichingen will forever be remembered solely as "that play where the guy says 'kiss my ass'". But then again, when Mozart did a proto-Filk Song (No, seriously) consisting entirely of quoting said line, what else can you be remembered for?
  • Regardless of its actual merits as a piece of theatre, Tom Taylor's 19th-century screwball farce Our American Cousin is doomed to be forever remembered as the play that Abraham Lincoln was watching when he was assassinated.
  • In The Ring of the Nibelung, Fasolt is in love with Freia, believes that Wotan will give her to him, and ends up becoming the Abel to his brother’s Cain. Therefore, he is often viewed as a Gentle Giant and a naive fool who thinks of nothing except getting his hands on Freia. His brilliant "The Reason You Suck" Speech towards Wotan and the fact that he quickly realizes just how dangerous Alberich is are glossed over, and it can get forgotten that of the two giants, he has more trouble keeping his temper in check.

Toys 

  • Barbie: A bad combination of misheard lines from the "Teen Talk" doll, note  inbuilt blonde stereotypes, and reactions to her own model-like figure (she started out as a fashion doll) turned common perception of her into the Dumb Blonde doll, with all the vapidness and shallowness it implied — there's a reason Stepford Smiles are called "Barbie Smiles", after all. Even the multiple jobs her dolls have amassed over the years and her portrayals in the direct-to-video movies haven't shaken this stigma off completely. The 2023 theatrical movie seems to have caused a shift away from this perception, but only time will tell.

Web Animation 

  • Eddsworld: Tom called Tord a "Commie" literally once, and it was in a flashback that Tord was narrating. You wouldn't know that from fanfiction, wherein half the time it seems to be the only thing Tom calls him, sometimes even to the exclusion of calling him by his name.
  • Tanigo "YAGOO" Motoaki, the president and CEO of hololive, is never able to live down saying that "We run an idol group like AKB48", in that that is how hololive is supposedly meant to be seen as. This is a running joke that has been taken out of context as has mentioned that this "idol dream" he spoke of was less about replicating existing agencies but rather giving aspiring talent that may not have made it as a traditional idol the opportunity to fulfill their own dreams in a new medium. The talent and fandom both know this, but regularly make jokes about it for fun, which he just rolls with.
  • Homestar Runner:
    • Strong Bad became so associated with the word "crap" and using the phrase "Holy crap!" that fans began sending him emails signed "Crapfully yours" or a variant when Strong Bad Email began. Strong Bad demanded that people stop doing it at the end of one episode. Ever since then, he calls out any sender who still does it. On one occasion, he received an email from someone who signed it "Crudfully" instead, but he is not fooled for a minute:

      "Crudfully? Really? What, was your mom sitting over your shoulder when you typed this email? And is your mom the kinda lady that won't let you type the word 'crap'? Don't me get wrong, I still woulda made fun of you if you had typed the word 'crapfully', I prolly just would've left your moms out of it."

    • 1-up (Homestar's 20X6 counterpart) loves pudding, due to one line in a cartoon saying "I want pudding!" after Stinkoman offered to share a pile of pudding he found.
  • Many Happy Tree Friends fans will never let Shifty live down leaving his own brother to die in favor of himself.
  • Caboose in Red vs. Blue won't live down accidentally killing Church with a tank he couldn't control. Church himself at least has a reason to not let him forget it, but when Flanderization kicked in, this incident mutated into Caboose being a trigger happy Team Killer in general. It's way funnier than it sounds.
  • RWBY:
    • Weiss calls Ruby a dolt once, very early in the first volume. The fandom has made it her catch-phrase and go-to insult whenever anyone, but especially Ruby, annoys her.
    • Jaune is initially introduced as a character who struggles to do anything right, from throwing up in his first introduction because of travel sickness to bumbling through his very first lesson. He only attempts to hit on Weiss a couple of times in the first two volumes but has been defined by the fandom because of his hopeless crush and his terrible attempts to woo her. The fandom portrays him as hitting on her on a daily basis, something that sometimes overlaps with parts of the fandom who prefer portraying the two characters in different ships.
    • Nora eagerly suggests breaking Cardin's legs only once in the entire series as a response to the fact her friend and team-leader, Jaune, is being bullied by Cardin. However, this line is the reason why fanfic writers commonly make Nora comically violent in ways that far exceed her canon character. For the same reason, Cardin is popularly portrayed as having his legs broken in various ways as karmic retribution for his bullying.
    • Yang's voice actor is (in)famous for her pun-making skills and Yang's appearance and personality are similar to her. The fandom, therefore, jokes that Yang is a relentless pun-maker. However, Yang's first pun occurs in Volume 2's first episode, and her total number of puns can be counted with one hand.
    • In Volume 8, Ruby's team is confined to Schnee Manor while they deal with critical injuries and try to cope with how overwhelmed they feel by the scale of the crisis. Although only one scene involves them drinking tea as they discuss Nora's condition and how they can help the entire kingdom survive, the fandom exaggerates and jokes about them doing nothing but drink tea while other characters are on the front lines trying to save lives.
    • As Volume 9 housed both Blake and Yang's Relationship Upgrade and Ruby's Despair Event Horizon almost back-to-back, jokes and criticism about Yang being a bad sister quickly popped up, making it sound like she intentionally ignored Ruby's emotional turmoil so she can focus more on her own feelings for Blake. This ignores how Yang has been nothing short of supportive of Ruby for a majority of the franchise's runtime as well as how Ruby was putting up a self-destructive front under the misguided belief that failure is not an option at all as a leader (which is something Ruby flat out admits in the RWBY Volume 9 Beyond episode "Boba").

Webcomics 

  • Boyfriends.: Prep said things like "hot choccy" and "choccy milk" a grand total of once or twice each, and it wasn't even focused on, but if you asked the comic's detractors (and even some of its fans), they'd have you believe it was his defining character trait and one of the reasons the comic is "bad".
  • A somewhat meta-example in Gunnerkrigg Court: In one page the readers didn't recognize Eglamore, so now whenever he appears, Tom will always point out to them that it's Eglamore.
    • He lampshaded this at one point by pointing out that "the girl next to Eglamore is Antimony Carver, the hero of this strip".
  • Homestuck: The fandom will probably never let John live down his "I'm not a homosexual" comment. Try to find one slash fic involving John where he doesn't say that or bring it up.
  • In Sidekick Girl, Illumina has a reputation for being a death magnet to her sidekicks (Part of the reason immortal Val was assigned to her). Only one, Val's immediate predecessor, actually died. Of her other long-term sidekicks, one quit on her in the middle of a fight and the other went insane from the stress of being an eternal twelve-year-old.
  • Monette in Something*Positive has since been adopted by the MacIntyres and become a successful actress. But, despite now being in a committed lesbian relationship, she'll be remembered as the most man-loving lesbian ever...who'd rather do animals than women.
  • Stand Still, Stay Silent:
    • During the chapter of Reynir's arrival, the idea of eating him if the crew ever ran out of food was brought up very briefly, and that same chapter ended with actual orders to the crew to keep Reynir alive. Several real life years later, comment quips about the crew's food reserves or cannibalism will inevitably find a way to involve Reynir.
    • Ever since Håkan Västerström cut Onni's ear in the real world right when he was getting a similar injury in spirit form, subsequent appearances of he and the siblings with whom he's The Dividual tend to make the readers a little more wary of them than strictly necessary. The three children have had two scenes ever since the incident, one playing in the background, one hovering over Onni during his Power-Strain Blackout coma.

Web Original 

  • Several for the current and past members of Channel Awesome.
    • In lighter examples, even though she's been knocked unconscious more often, The Nostalgia Chick will always be known for chloroforming the Critic and the Critic himself will never be able to forget wearing Guyliner.
    • Also, for Doug, Melvin, Melvin, Brother of The Joker. The whole thing came across as Narm to more than a few people, leading to the Nostalgia Critic being reminded of it with terror.
      • The Nostalgia Critic's panning of Mako in TMNT got him a lot of flak from Mako's fans. It didn't help that the Critic said Mako's voice sounded like he smoked too many cigarettes, when Mako died of lung cancer. Walker even invented a running gag out of it where Mako is a great and worthy figure who must never be dissed, for any reason.
    • Spoony has that time when he told people to go out and murder any fans of Final Fantasy X before stating he would do it himself. While it was just a joke and he expressed regret for saying this on a livestream over the game (even admitting he deserved rebuke for it), there are still a lot of people who aren't about to forgive that gaffe anytime soon.
      • Some like to bring up Spoony's yelling of "BETRAYAL!" at X-Com 2010.
    • Oancitizen has his "I really fucking hate Rants" (Rants being the former owner of a post-secret style blog for TGWTG) line in the Sh*t TGWTG Fans Say video (which was removed after the backlash caused by the comment). He did apologise repeatedly to Rants for the video afterwards, though.
    • A lighter example would be Phelous' Running Gag of dying in his videos. Despite him retiring the joke after fifty episodes and avoiding it ever since, it's arguably his best-known joke, to the extent it was the main hook for his character in To Boldly Flee.
    • During an unboxing video with his fiance Viga Gadson, Lewis "Linkara" Lovhaug recorded a three-hour video—without the microphone being on. In the 30 minute one that he uploaded that did have sound, it opens with Viga coming up with different ways to tell Lewis "Fuck you" for forgetting and the following videos have a running gag with letters telling Lewis to check the mic to see that it's on.
  • In Slate Magazine's Culture Gabfest podcast, the Enforced Plug(s) for sponsor Carbonite.com almost always involve a reference to movie critic Dana Stevens spilling chai or coffee on someone's laptop.
  • Andy Zaltzman, Chris, Tom, and... let's say everyone on earth will never let John Oliver forget that he was in The Love Guru.
    • Now their teasing has expanded to include John's role as Vanity Smurf in The Smurfs, although he defends himself by citing how popular the film actually was.
  • "The Trololo Guy" (Eduard Khil) says "trololo" once in a song that lasts almost three minutes - this is because he first gained his popularity from the short, cut-out clip featuring that phrase. And for many people, his career begins and ends with that three minute song, despite having been a performer for over 40 years.
  • Dylan Guptill, better known online as Guptill 89, is a modestly popular commentary channel who became famous for having some rather controversial opinions for the late 2000s, especially in regards to angry video game reviewers like The Angry Video Game Nerd. What is he known for nowadays? His joke video on the "Top 10 Hottest Female Sonic Characters", which was torn to shreds almost immediately upon release due to being mistaken as genuine. It did not help that some of the characters on the list were canonically underage. To his credit, Guptill has stated that he was unaware that the characters in question were minors, which contributed to him taking down the video (as well as videos talking about it, which triggered a Streisand Effect for both the video itself and the critiques). Nowadays, a reupload of the video is the first result when searching up his channel name on YouTube (beating out both the channel itself and its videos), and quotes from the video (namely "The size of an average human mother" and "Hot chick heaven") have become memetic.
  • Poor Frogman will never be forgiven for 9gag trying to turn his face into a rageface. It wasn't even his fault, yet he is now always referred to as that forced-meme guy.
  • This is the end result of any sort of bad transgression in a Journal Roleplay at the Dreamwidth anon journal "Wankgate": if you flounced a game, made a fool of yourself on the comms, made yourself look like a creeper or play a character Out of Character, then the anons there will keep record of it and will make sure that you aren't forgotten.
  • The Pokémon Challenge Gamer community will likely never let Alpharad nor Captain Kidd forget that they tried to take on Lorelei's Jynx with an Onix in the former's FireRed Nuzlocke run, which died to a single Ice Punch before it had the chance to do anything. Alpharad also likes to bring up the incident himself in his later Pokémon challenge runs, both as Self-Deprecation and as a jab towards Kidd for insisting that it would work.
  • Fans of Yo-kai Watch will always remember Did You Know Gaming's Shane Gill for his infamous (now deleted) comment on Jimmy Whetzel's review, where he says that Jimmy "angered all 70 fans of Yo-kai Watch."
  • Mathieu Brunet, also known as AniMat will always be remembered by his former fans and critics for the reviewer who calls SPA "The Donald Trump of Animation." and wants to shut it down for making bad movies.
    • He is also well known for his random and arbitrary rants against anyone who has a different views from him and even goes as far as starting fights with people online over it. Him defending the infamous movie Cuties along with working with D.C. Douglas who was exposed for his notorious behaviour such as committing sexual harassment, indecent exposure, emotional-psychological manipulation, homophobia, transphobia, and non-disclosure agreement violations also didn't help matters.
  • Yu-Gi-Oh Youtuber Lithium 2300 is well known for his cross-banlist cup videos where he plays decks from different eras against each other, but people won't let him forget how he proclaimed Magical Musket would be the next Zoodiac when the cards were first revealed. The deck failed to do anything on release and only in 2024 did it finally win a YCS, albeit with the help of the Fiendsmith archetype.

Web Videos 

  • Critical Role
    • During Campaign 1, Percy tried to explain his theory about Saundor's tree with the phrase "Life needs things to live". Not only has Percy had it thrown back at him multiple times, but all of Taliesin's future characters have had it aimed at them too, usually followed by them remarking what a stupid phrase it is.
      • Similarly, during Campaign 2, Caduceus falls into a tar pit for the second time that day and shouts "Help, it's again!" The cast immediately joke that they want that phrase on a shirt, and it has been used many more times in the future.
    • Keyleth has made a few significant blunders with her spell usage, mainly because her player Marisha would often neglect to read the descriptions of her spells (though she gets a lot better about this over the course of the campaign). Her two most famous mistakes are the Wind Walk incident, where she used Wind Walk to turn half the party into clouds during a major battle without realizing that that would remove their ability to attack at all, and the time where she used Heat Metal on Vax's daggers in an attempt to let him deal extra damage, but instead just burned the shit out of his hands.
    • Keyleth also has never lived down the Goldfish Incident — she tried to dive down a 1000 foot cliff to get down to the bottom faster, and when it looked like she was about to splatter onto the rocks below, Wild Shaped into a goldfish instead of anything that could actually fly, hitting rock and dying instantly. Made funnier by the fact that that was her first and only death of Campaign 1, and that Marisha had previously said that the only thing she feared more than her character dying was her character dying to something stupid.
    • Several instances of someone misspeaking have also become running jokes: "snee snake"note  by Travis, and "shiver and quiff"note  by Matt.
  • Game Theory's Matthew Patrick has a fair share of oft-mocked theories, but one especially infamous one is his "Sans is Ness" video, which was so roundly mocked for its absurdity by everyone (including himself!) that even his cameo in the Five Nights at Freddy's movie subtly makes fun of him for it.
  • Smiffy of Hat Films has "ghosted" note  on rare occasions when playing games with his teammates, or the rest of the Yogscast, yet the reasonable and understanding fans have, through Flanderisation, turned him into a constantly ghosting asshole that rarely stops doing it.
  • No matter how "original" he tries to be, there will always be someone to remind Chris Bores of The Irate Gamer that he outright stole from The Angry Video Game Nerd.
  • Movie Fights
    • In one of the earlier episodes, Hal screwed a Speed Round question really badly by calling out the same answer that his opponent, Tiffany, had already clearly called out first, despite having more than a few seconds to think. From then on, Andy would call such the "Hal Rudnick move", and would warn the contestants to not "pull a Hal Rudnick" before the speed rounds. This stopped when they change their speed round rules, however.
    • Many fans of the show would fondly recall Kristian Harloff as "the writer of Nightfalls" after he argued for the completely made up title in one of the Speed Round questions. He managed to fool his opponents, the judge and even the fact checker into thinking that such a movie exist, and his bold attempt at doing so remains as one of the best moments in the series.
  • Numberphile: The infamous "Parker Square," Matt's rather terrible quasi-solution (reusing two numbers and with one diagonal wrong) to the problem of whether a Magic Square Puzzle can be made of square numbers. Since then, it's been brought up whenever a flawed solution is mentioned, especially in Matt's videos.
  • The YouTube series PokéSins loves to hammer one point. In Episode 3 of Pokémon: The Original Series, Ash resists using more than one Pokémon at a time against Team Rocket, citing the rules of the Kanto Pokémon League. In future episodes where Ash subverts it, Gar1onriva cites that scene and gives it a Minun.
  • ProtonJon said "MOVE FASTER, POKEY!!" in his Let's Play of Kaizo Mario World all of once. Look around the internet and This Very Wiki and you'd think he shouted it out all the time. Even he's gotten a bit tired of it.
    • Similarly, Chuggaaconroy regretted bringing Steve the Trooper into the world of Pikmin since the fans decided to make a Facebook fan page for him. He had originally only singled out Steve as "the one we were not going to like", only calling him a trooper once in a later episode.
      • He probably isn't going to forget the Calibrary Cuff incident anytime soon.
      • Or the Runaway Guys playthrough of the Mario Party 6 board where he innocently made a huge stream of innuendos about Daisy. It started with 'Should we do Daisy on hard (difficulty)?' and got worse from there.
    • In the context of Retsupurae, it seems slowbeef and Diabetus will never let ProtonJon forget that he was once tricked into doing a Super Mario World romhack LP by an author pretending to be dying of leukemia. Every wrongpurae video on King's Quest VII: The Princeless Bride in which he guest starred has included a joke about it, and two of them (so far) consist only of the duo pranking him with one.
  • Rich Evans from RedLetterMedia once posted a parody of various YouTubers' over-the-top reactions to the Star Wars: The Force Awakens trailer by going even more over the top, culminating in him putting on a Darth Vader helmet and jerking off a toy astromech droid while yelling "I FUCKING LOVE STAR WARS!" The other RLM members have since repeatedly dragged this clip back out to make fun of him.
  • Sjin, according to a story Sips and Turps told, bought a plush of Maximus from Tangled while in America and had to throw out a pair of jeans in order to make it fit. This is something no one else in the Yogscast will let him forget. Ever. Sjin claims this isn't true, for what it's worth.
  • Te Lo Resumo Así Nomás: The video "The 3 worse films of Keanu Reeves" starts with Johnny Mnemonic, and the narrator mocks a scene where Keanu is having some weird yoga at a public bathroom. He follows with "The Lake House" and "The Gift", and when the plot becomes too convoluted, the narrator says "Argh! This is too much! Keanu needs some yoga!". And when the video ends, he invites the people to like the video, subscribe to the channel, share it in social media... and upload videos having Yoga, Keanu Reeves-style.
  • TFS at the Table: Ezra Lockwood will never live down the time he accidentally shot his own teammate in the back of the head with a crossbow.
  • Noah of Tribe Twelve fame is known for stabbing bushes. He did it exactly once, for approximately two seconds of screentime.
  • Turpster is probably not going to be allowed to forget his Old Shame "Turpstervision" introduction that he used for an old show of his. This is (largely) because Sips and Hat Films installed it as a taunt for Prop Hunt. Despite his efforts to take the original video down, reuploads exist and videos with the taunt are almost impossible to remove, since Hat Films basically use their server for every Garry's Mod video the Yogscast make.
  • Two Best Friends Play:
    • Pat will never let Matt forget that, during their Silent Hill: Downpour LP, he accidentally threw the Fire Axe down a Bottomless Pit. Neither will the series's animators.
    • Woolie apparently turned down sex with two hot bisexual girls so that he could get to his local Gamestop to buy Marvel vs. Capcom 3. His friends occasionally needle him about this, long after the aforementioned game came out.
  • UrinatingTree practically invented the sports subgenre of the Angry Internet Reviewer with videos that may actually go into better detail than much of what you might see on Sports Center today. But many people will mainly associate him with: "STILLERS GAHNTA SHUPER BOWL!!"
  • In the Vinesauce Tomodachi Life series, this happens a lot to the islanders, where their entire character becomes defined by some minor event. This is partially because Tomodachi Life doesn't leave much room for characterization, so interpreting small events is a must. Some prominent examples:
    • Walrus is a ridiculously nice guy, doesn't cause trouble for the most part, and has helped Alpaca (who's always struggled with romance) find love in Bonzi Buddy. Does Vinny (and the viewers, to a lesser degree) remember him for that? No, he remembers him for "stealing" Two-Faced from his own Mii, Vinesauce, causing him to have an extremely long-held grudge for him. Fortunately, this doesn't last forever, because Vinny sees him get dumped coldly in Episode 37, and starts treating him nicely.
      • By extension, given the amount of votes she gets during the Survivor Edition, nobody's going to forget that Two-Faced cheated on Walrus for DK, which is the reason Walrus got redeemed.
    • Isaac, for the most part, is an uninteresting islander. Or at least he would have been, but while he was being added, the game crashed, causing everything that was done for the first half of Episode 28 to be lost. This is Isaac's most memorable moment, and despite the fact that it's never happened again, Vinny still turns to him whenever things go wrong, asking him to reset the island again.
    • Ask fans about Groose and Karl, and they'll probably mention that they are the "Sloppy Seconds Brothers", a Love Hungry duo that interrupts love confessions to confess their own love, and always failing at it. This is based off of two separate events in Episode 36, and it has never happened again, but the prominence of it means that many people think of the two as love failures, which really only fits Karl.
    • A non-islander example; Captain Southbird, a Promoted Fanboy who condenses the streams, is considered to be the reason why Cling On, an formerly-ignored islander, rose to fame and became a Breakout Character. This has led to him becoming associated with Cling On, and questions fans ask him tend to be related to her. He doesn't seem to mind, though.